Normal, en un presidente con Nobel de la Paz que permite las armas en sus ciudadanos; o como un Rey que dice que hay que escuchar las voces del pueblo poniendo por narices a su hijo en el trono.
Lo que ha dicho Obama:
"El Regne Unit ha estat un extraordinari per a nosaltres, i des de fora com a mínim, sembla que les coses funcionen prou bé. Nosaltres tenim un profund interès en garantir que un dels aliats més pròxims que mai tindrem continuï essent un soci fort, unit i eficaç'."
Traducción politico-castellano/castellano-político: "Es un asunto interno y lo que decida Reino Unido nos parece bien. Lo que nos importa de verdad es que siga siendo un socio fuerte, unido y eficaz."
#6 ¿"o el título no te gusta" dices? ¿Has leido el título de este hilo? "aunque no es partidario de la independencia" Una cosa es estar a favor de la independencia y otra diferente es estar a favor de que los escoceses puedan decidir su futuro por ellos mismos.
#8 Si, lo he leído. Por eso te pregunto donde lo defiende, ya que en la noticia de Vilaweb no lo indica... ni en la del Telegraph a pesar de ser bastante más amplia se puede encontrar la frase donde lo defiende...
Porque si el titular dice algo que se inventa el periodista, quiere decir que es sensacionalista o erronea... por eso quería asegurarme antes.
#7 La Casa Blanca ya ha respondido de forma oficial a la petición de un referéndum secesionista en Texas, evidentemente rechazándolo:
In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."
Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.
"El Regne Unit ha estat un extraordinari per a nosaltres, i des de fora com a mínim, sembla que les coses funcionen prou bé. Nosaltres tenim un profund interès en garantir que un dels aliats més pròxims que mai tindrem continuï essent un soci fort, unit i eficaç'."
Traducción politico-castellano/castellano-político: "Es un asunto interno y lo que decida Reino Unido nos parece bien. Lo que nos importa de verdad es que siga siendo un socio fuerte, unido y eficaz."
¿Donde defiende el derecho a decidir?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/10878492/Barack-
Barack Obama says Scotland should remain part of United Kingdom
"En el caso de Escocia, hay un referéndum y depende de la gente de Escocia" Está relatando un hecho, no veo que defienda una cosa o la contraria...
Spoiler: lo mismito que a Lincoln. Mal. Le parecería mal.
Porque si el titular dice algo que se inventa el periodista, quiere decir que es sensacionalista o erronea... por eso quería asegurarme antes.
Hay un votación/referendum/elecciones convocadas oficialmente, el resultado final depende de la gente que vote en él. (En este caso los escoceses)
Vale, si lo sacaron de ahí, entonces sensacionalista.
In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."
Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.
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